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		<title>By: A conversation with Miss Diva Style 2007 at Second Style Fashionista</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondstyle.com/2007/09/no-anorexia-second-life.html/comment-page-1#comment-58949</link>
		<dc:creator>A conversation with Miss Diva Style 2007 at Second Style Fashionista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 05:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;d call a &#8220;larger&#8221; shape than many female avatars in Second Life. There was a blog post on Fashionista about the &#8220;No Anorexia in SL&#8221; campaign the other day and it&#8217;s been a bit controversial. I wonder if you had a comment about modeling [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;d call a &#8220;larger&#8221; shape than many female avatars in Second Life. There was a blog post on Fashionista about the &#8220;No Anorexia in SL&#8221; campaign the other day and it&#8217;s been a bit controversial. I wonder if you had a comment about modeling [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anastasia Lusch</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondstyle.com/2007/09/no-anorexia-second-life.html/comment-page-1#comment-58688</link>
		<dc:creator>Anastasia Lusch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I think this billboard is a good idea. My avatar is skinny but I have her proportional. I&#039;m naturally thin and I want to have my AV look somewhat similar in terms of body type. I&#039;m not like 6 feet tall though!

Some really great opinions though. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think this billboard is a good idea. My avatar is skinny but I have her proportional. I&#8217;m naturally thin and I want to have my AV look somewhat similar in terms of body type. I&#8217;m not like 6 feet tall though!</p>
<p>Some really great opinions though. <img src='http://blog.secondstyle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rosie Barthelmess</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondstyle.com/2007/09/no-anorexia-second-life.html/comment-page-1#comment-58645</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosie Barthelmess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(thank you Licentious)

I&#039;m a plus-size avie in SL, and I get lots of mixed reactions.  Sometimes it&#039;s good, sometimes it&#039;s bad.  Usually the good reactions I get are from people who are shaped like me IRL, and they call me things like &quot;brave&quot; and &quot;pioneer&quot; and other things that I think are flattering, but I don&#039;t know how true they are.

Then sometimes I just get random people saying, &quot;Why would you choose to be fat in SL?&quot;

Okay.  A lot.  I get that a lot.

I&#039;m a recovering bulimic in RL, which had little to do with my choice of avie.  I wanted my avie to be an extension of myself.  I know and respect and understand that lots of plus-size RL people feel like they have a thin-size person on the inside trying to get out, that idealized, amazing version of themselves, and I treat someone designing a thin avie just like choosing to be a neko, a furry, a faerie, a robot avatar, a tiny, or whatever.  For me it&#039;s all about getting to know the person behind the avie anyways.

I have some plus-sized avie friends, but most of my avie friends are what I would call healthy/average shaped, or thin.  I get saddened when people base their own self worth on the shape of their avie, and hearing the more pretentious prance around and talk about how they are a &quot;top model&quot; or whatever -- the truth is, I could be shaped just like any of them if I wanted to take the time to undo the hard work I&#039;ve done with my sliders to make Rosie who she is.

It&#039;s true that I have to spend a lot more time adjusting clothes or even finding clothes to fit me properly.  But it&#039;s worth it, to me.  My avie is proportional -- I have some belly and some pudge around my middle, my breasts have gravity, I have thunder thighs AND a large waist.  I don&#039;t have a porno-star bod or even what many women like to call a &quot;BBW shape&quot; in SL -- with a teeny waist and a huge &quot;ghetto booty.&quot;  I just am who I am.

I do have to admit though, when I see avies with 7-foot-long legs that are pencil-thin and lanky and very disproportionate, I do wonder if there&#039;s an eating disorder lurking on the other side of the screen.  And then I pray there isn&#039;t one.  Because I wouldn&#039;t wish it on anybody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(thank you Licentious)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a plus-size avie in SL, and I get lots of mixed reactions.  Sometimes it&#8217;s good, sometimes it&#8217;s bad.  Usually the good reactions I get are from people who are shaped like me IRL, and they call me things like &#8220;brave&#8221; and &#8220;pioneer&#8221; and other things that I think are flattering, but I don&#8217;t know how true they are.</p>
<p>Then sometimes I just get random people saying, &#8220;Why would you choose to be fat in SL?&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay.  A lot.  I get that a lot.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a recovering bulimic in RL, which had little to do with my choice of avie.  I wanted my avie to be an extension of myself.  I know and respect and understand that lots of plus-size RL people feel like they have a thin-size person on the inside trying to get out, that idealized, amazing version of themselves, and I treat someone designing a thin avie just like choosing to be a neko, a furry, a faerie, a robot avatar, a tiny, or whatever.  For me it&#8217;s all about getting to know the person behind the avie anyways.</p>
<p>I have some plus-sized avie friends, but most of my avie friends are what I would call healthy/average shaped, or thin.  I get saddened when people base their own self worth on the shape of their avie, and hearing the more pretentious prance around and talk about how they are a &#8220;top model&#8221; or whatever &#8212; the truth is, I could be shaped just like any of them if I wanted to take the time to undo the hard work I&#8217;ve done with my sliders to make Rosie who she is.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true that I have to spend a lot more time adjusting clothes or even finding clothes to fit me properly.  But it&#8217;s worth it, to me.  My avie is proportional &#8212; I have some belly and some pudge around my middle, my breasts have gravity, I have thunder thighs AND a large waist.  I don&#8217;t have a porno-star bod or even what many women like to call a &#8220;BBW shape&#8221; in SL &#8212; with a teeny waist and a huge &#8220;ghetto booty.&#8221;  I just am who I am.</p>
<p>I do have to admit though, when I see avies with 7-foot-long legs that are pencil-thin and lanky and very disproportionate, I do wonder if there&#8217;s an eating disorder lurking on the other side of the screen.  And then I pray there isn&#8217;t one.  Because I wouldn&#8217;t wish it on anybody.</p>
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		<title>By: Harmonie Shepherd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harmonie Shepherd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 18:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a SL model, and do have a portfolio of diff body shapes. However, people only want my reg, thin,body shape. I use whatever the photog wants, and skinny is what they want. Fortunately, Sl offers the ability to be versitile, in style and body shape.My avi, has a pretty balanced shape, and i like that. So do the people who want me as their model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a SL model, and do have a portfolio of diff body shapes. However, people only want my reg, thin,body shape. I use whatever the photog wants, and skinny is what they want. Fortunately, Sl offers the ability to be versitile, in style and body shape.My avi, has a pretty balanced shape, and i like that. So do the people who want me as their model.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalia Basiat</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondstyle.com/2007/09/no-anorexia-second-life.html/comment-page-1#comment-58153</link>
		<dc:creator>Natalia Basiat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think rather than super skinny avatars, what I have noticed is that there&#039;s a trend in SL for what I call &#039;booty&#039; avatars.

It shocked me at first, since it was counter to my expectations. My husband and I have laughed about it, and wondered if it&#039;s some generation gap thing that I don&#039;t get, being 40.

I see a lot of curves out there. Big thighs, big rear ends. Breasts. Much much more than I see waifs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think rather than super skinny avatars, what I have noticed is that there&#8217;s a trend in SL for what I call &#8216;booty&#8217; avatars.</p>
<p>It shocked me at first, since it was counter to my expectations. My husband and I have laughed about it, and wondered if it&#8217;s some generation gap thing that I don&#8217;t get, being 40.</p>
<p>I see a lot of curves out there. Big thighs, big rear ends. Breasts. Much much more than I see waifs.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonquille</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondstyle.com/2007/09/no-anorexia-second-life.html/comment-page-1#comment-57913</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonquille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent a brief time in my youth (several years and many pounds ago) doing professional modeling, and at 6&#039;1&quot;, they still expected me to be under 120 pounds.  Uh, no.  Even at the young age I was, I had a healthy enough understanding of body-weight (and self-esteem) to refuse to lose weight to the point of sickness, or to the point of extreme loss of self-esteem.  I quit modeling, broke a contract, and went on to accept that not everyone should weigh the same &quot;ideal&quot; amount.  No way.  It only looks &#039;ideal&#039; on some, and very few at that.

Now I&#039;m in my mid 30s, and I much, much prefer a womanly shape, both on myself, and on those whose figures I admire.  Selma Hayek, Scarlett Johansen, Lutitia Casta... give me boobs and hips and curves every time.  If I want a stick thin model, I&#039;ll slap a dress on a 12 year old boy.

My AV is very tall, but I gave her an athletic figure, with some moderate boobs and curvy hips.  It suits what I now consider more of an &#039;ideal&#039; than the super skinny avs that look like they have huge hands and heads.

Regardless of size, I think proportion is the key.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent a brief time in my youth (several years and many pounds ago) doing professional modeling, and at 6&#8217;1&#8243;, they still expected me to be under 120 pounds.  Uh, no.  Even at the young age I was, I had a healthy enough understanding of body-weight (and self-esteem) to refuse to lose weight to the point of sickness, or to the point of extreme loss of self-esteem.  I quit modeling, broke a contract, and went on to accept that not everyone should weigh the same &#8220;ideal&#8221; amount.  No way.  It only looks &#8216;ideal&#8217; on some, and very few at that.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m in my mid 30s, and I much, much prefer a womanly shape, both on myself, and on those whose figures I admire.  Selma Hayek, Scarlett Johansen, Lutitia Casta&#8230; give me boobs and hips and curves every time.  If I want a stick thin model, I&#8217;ll slap a dress on a 12 year old boy.</p>
<p>My AV is very tall, but I gave her an athletic figure, with some moderate boobs and curvy hips.  It suits what I now consider more of an &#8216;ideal&#8217; than the super skinny avs that look like they have huge hands and heads.</p>
<p>Regardless of size, I think proportion is the key.</p>
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		<title>By: Valena Glushenko</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondstyle.com/2007/09/no-anorexia-second-life.html/comment-page-1#comment-57655</link>
		<dc:creator>Valena Glushenko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I have an extremely thin avatar, which I know is not in proportion in certain respects such as the neck, but i&#039;m not great with the sliders. I altered my originally custom-purchased shape to make it thin, with no ass and minimal breasts, to at least keep some realism. (with boyish hips, as Celeb once said :P) I had the supermodel image in mind; i know myself that if I see a model on the runway or in a magazine or something that isn&#039;t a size 0-4 (or whatever) I just don&#039;t like it. People will disagree with me, but that&#039;s just how i feel models should look. Particularly with haute couture, I think it takes this sort of &quot;dream-like&quot; quality and design to a new level of oddity/specialness.

I&#039;m going back to my red wine and sun in Portugal now, stay cool people </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I have an extremely thin avatar, which I know is not in proportion in certain respects such as the neck, but i&#8217;m not great with the sliders. I altered my originally custom-purchased shape to make it thin, with no ass and minimal breasts, to at least keep some realism. (with boyish hips, as Celeb once said <img src='http://blog.secondstyle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> ) I had the supermodel image in mind; i know myself that if I see a model on the runway or in a magazine or something that isn&#8217;t a size 0-4 (or whatever) I just don&#8217;t like it. People will disagree with me, but that&#8217;s just how i feel models should look. Particularly with haute couture, I think it takes this sort of &#8220;dream-like&#8221; quality and design to a new level of oddity/specialness.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going back to my red wine and sun in Portugal now, stay cool people</p>
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		<title>By: A</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondstyle.com/2007/09/no-anorexia-second-life.html/comment-page-1#comment-57642</link>
		<dc:creator>A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s wonderful to bring awareness to our SL. I personally have a curvy avatar that reflects my RL and couldn&#039;t imagine having to walk around looking stick thin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s wonderful to bring awareness to our SL. I personally have a curvy avatar that reflects my RL and couldn&#8217;t imagine having to walk around looking stick thin.</p>
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		<title>By: Caliah Lyon</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondstyle.com/2007/09/no-anorexia-second-life.html/comment-page-1#comment-57442</link>
		<dc:creator>Caliah Lyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;At the risk of saying too much about my real self, a campaign calling for â€œno anorexiaâ€ doesnâ€™t help the women (and less frequently, men) who struggle with body image issues and resulting disorders. I donâ€™t believe this campaign was created out of any real desire to raise awareness about anorexia. It looks like shock value advertising.&lt;/i&gt;

I agree.

Honestly, I can&#039;t help but sigh at the misconceptions that are spawned by campaigns such this one (that often take seed in an ill-informed public all too easily swayed to prejudice and snap judgements), misconceptions that do nothing but hurt the same people that these ads are supposed to be helping. It&#039;s obvious I have strong personal feelings on this subject, so I&#039;ll just say that this isn&#039;t a light matter to be thrown in our faces like the daily tabloid. I would much rather see such a campaign done with the right amount of compassion, rather than sensationalising something so serious as this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>At the risk of saying too much about my real self, a campaign calling for â€œno anorexiaâ€ doesnâ€™t help the women (and less frequently, men) who struggle with body image issues and resulting disorders. I donâ€™t believe this campaign was created out of any real desire to raise awareness about anorexia. It looks like shock value advertising.</i></p>
<p>I agree.</p>
<p>Honestly, I can&#8217;t help but sigh at the misconceptions that are spawned by campaigns such this one (that often take seed in an ill-informed public all too easily swayed to prejudice and snap judgements), misconceptions that do nothing but hurt the same people that these ads are supposed to be helping. It&#8217;s obvious I have strong personal feelings on this subject, so I&#8217;ll just say that this isn&#8217;t a light matter to be thrown in our faces like the daily tabloid. I would much rather see such a campaign done with the right amount of compassion, rather than sensationalising something so serious as this.</p>
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		<title>By: Leda Mondegreen</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondstyle.com/2007/09/no-anorexia-second-life.html/comment-page-1#comment-57326</link>
		<dc:creator>Leda Mondegreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 17:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are wonderful comments. I wanted to add something no one has mentioned so far -- that a significant number of women in SL are the avatars of RL men.  Their ideals of female appearance are ... important, I suppose, but a different matter than the ways women present themselves in SL.

These guys create an image of their perfect woman, I suppose.  And that often involves very large breasts. and the whole porn star look.

That said, I think RL women have a wonderful opportunity in SL to sport the larger breasts they wish they had.

I, for one, like my athletic ballet-dancer-like RL breasts, and it has kind of been a struggle to make my SL breasts that way. Maybe some day Linden will put a new slider in the shape controls -- 1=Audrey Hepburn,  99=Sophia Loren!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are wonderful comments. I wanted to add something no one has mentioned so far &#8212; that a significant number of women in SL are the avatars of RL men.  Their ideals of female appearance are &#8230; important, I suppose, but a different matter than the ways women present themselves in SL.</p>
<p>These guys create an image of their perfect woman, I suppose.  And that often involves very large breasts. and the whole porn star look.</p>
<p>That said, I think RL women have a wonderful opportunity in SL to sport the larger breasts they wish they had.</p>
<p>I, for one, like my athletic ballet-dancer-like RL breasts, and it has kind of been a struggle to make my SL breasts that way. Maybe some day Linden will put a new slider in the shape controls &#8212; 1=Audrey Hepburn,  99=Sophia Loren!</p>
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