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	<description>Clothes, and shoes, and hair, oh my!</description>
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		<title>By: janie matahari</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/11/in-the-wake-of-copybot.html/comment-page-1#comment-902</link>
		<dc:creator>janie matahari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 17:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>finally a balanced intelligent peice.  why cant i find this on the SL blog?

i agree. closing the stores only was to send a msg to LL, but it didnt work. they only care about the economy and they say the economy wasnt affected, but they will take the pains to show it to us the numbers!

now i understand the tech aspects.. i understand the hands off approach.. the same vibe you mention from LL i also got from a business (unnamed) i was working with this week.. all customer service went out the window and that really distressed me.

so if there was no effect on the economy, and likely no big threat to stealing the object and scripts with these limitations, the biggest impact it had was emotional, and that cannot be graphed out. So you have more avies deleted during this week, or maybe you lose about 10 dollars and that makes you very angry.. or people stop creating stuff..or our way of living changes such that there is more distrust and more banlines.. all that is very harmful to our society, and people need to discuss those things. Also the lindens need to at least point us relatively new people to the suggested security items. the lindens know how the script is disabled even temporarily or how to deal.. but they wont say in their blogs, its the residents in the discussion groups  who are trying to help. its hard to find these info sources and more rumors go around, misinformation.. and then im left with feeling helpless, a prisoner in my home with banlines up and security cameras everywhere, IMing !quit to every decent newbie trying to play the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>finally a balanced intelligent peice.  why cant i find this on the SL blog?</p>
<p>i agree. closing the stores only was to send a msg to LL, but it didnt work. they only care about the economy and they say the economy wasnt affected, but they will take the pains to show it to us the numbers!</p>
<p>now i understand the tech aspects.. i understand the hands off approach.. the same vibe you mention from LL i also got from a business (unnamed) i was working with this week.. all customer service went out the window and that really distressed me.</p>
<p>so if there was no effect on the economy, and likely no big threat to stealing the object and scripts with these limitations, the biggest impact it had was emotional, and that cannot be graphed out. So you have more avies deleted during this week, or maybe you lose about 10 dollars and that makes you very angry.. or people stop creating stuff..or our way of living changes such that there is more distrust and more banlines.. all that is very harmful to our society, and people need to discuss those things. Also the lindens need to at least point us relatively new people to the suggested security items. the lindens know how the script is disabled even temporarily or how to deal.. but they wont say in their blogs, its the residents in the discussion groups  who are trying to help. its hard to find these info sources and more rumors go around, misinformation.. and then im left with feeling helpless, a prisoner in my home with banlines up and security cameras everywhere, IMing !quit to every decent newbie trying to play the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicky Ree</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/11/in-the-wake-of-copybot.html/comment-page-1#comment-886</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicky Ree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good editorial Celeb. I Hope more people will read this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good editorial Celeb. I Hope more people will read this.</p>
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		<title>By: Pukk Abel</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/11/in-the-wake-of-copybot.html/comment-page-1#comment-884</link>
		<dc:creator>Pukk Abel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 04:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is encouraging to read anything about this that is so informing and thoughtful. It hasn&#039;t been copybot that has made me afriad to log in recently (though i think it&#039;s truly terrible) it is the incredible amount of panic and obvious propoganda spreading throughout the grid.

Whether you closed up shop in protest of the LL policy or chose to stay open and state your concerns in other ways, I really appreciate everyone who has managed to keep a level head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is encouraging to read anything about this that is so informing and thoughtful. It hasn&#8217;t been copybot that has made me afriad to log in recently (though i think it&#8217;s truly terrible) it is the incredible amount of panic and obvious propoganda spreading throughout the grid.</p>
<p>Whether you closed up shop in protest of the LL policy or chose to stay open and state your concerns in other ways, I really appreciate everyone who has managed to keep a level head.</p>
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		<title>By: Nephilaine</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/11/in-the-wake-of-copybot.html/comment-page-1#comment-883</link>
		<dc:creator>Nephilaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 03:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article.
Having thought long and hard about it, I have decided not to close any of my shops- even to prove a point. 
When I first decided to go fulltime in SL, I wieghed the risks of programs like this (and there will always be something like this out there) and decided the risk was worth it- and that whatever came along, I would do my best to stay my course.

That said, I have all the respect in the world for the protesters. Do what you feel you need to do to make your voice heard. That this tool was developed with LL&#039;s tacit blessing without first giving the community at least SOME safeguards was, at best, irresponsible. I could apply much less kind descriptions.

The unveiling of programs like these always cause an uncomfortable crisis of values, you covered that well Celebrity. 
The only other thing I can think to say on this is to everyone out there creating and in fear for the safety of those creations: people can copy, yes, but only you own the mold. The thing they cannot do is create something new. That&#039;s small comfort, but it&#039;s the thought that has kept me going through a LOT of crises similar to this one.

It&#039;s wonderful to see so much of the design community banding together, and that is to be commended. Best of luck in the effort, and I sincerely hope that the action sends LL a crystal clear message.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article.<br />
Having thought long and hard about it, I have decided not to close any of my shops- even to prove a point.<br />
When I first decided to go fulltime in SL, I wieghed the risks of programs like this (and there will always be something like this out there) and decided the risk was worth it- and that whatever came along, I would do my best to stay my course.</p>
<p>That said, I have all the respect in the world for the protesters. Do what you feel you need to do to make your voice heard. That this tool was developed with LL&#8217;s tacit blessing without first giving the community at least SOME safeguards was, at best, irresponsible. I could apply much less kind descriptions.</p>
<p>The unveiling of programs like these always cause an uncomfortable crisis of values, you covered that well Celebrity.<br />
The only other thing I can think to say on this is to everyone out there creating and in fear for the safety of those creations: people can copy, yes, but only you own the mold. The thing they cannot do is create something new. That&#8217;s small comfort, but it&#8217;s the thought that has kept me going through a LOT of crises similar to this one.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s wonderful to see so much of the design community banding together, and that is to be commended. Best of luck in the effort, and I sincerely hope that the action sends LL a crystal clear message.</p>
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		<title>By: caLLie cLine</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/11/in-the-wake-of-copybot.html/comment-page-1#comment-881</link>
		<dc:creator>caLLie cLine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>celeb, you rock, always balanced, informative, and thanks for this post.

*claps*

xoxo,

caLLie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>celeb, you rock, always balanced, informative, and thanks for this post.</p>
<p>*claps*</p>
<p>xoxo,</p>
<p>caLLie</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha Poindexter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samantha Poindexter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quoth Dolus:</p>
<blockquote><p>When you say that CopyBot can’t copy clothing, I believe you’re mistaken. While I don’t think it actually copies that piece of clothing, it does copy the texture and apply it to the avatar acting as a bot.</p></blockquote>
<p>One layer comprising the fully baked look of the avatar being copied, yes, but that doesn&#8217;t last upon transfer.</p>
<blockquote><p>And it does copy shapes. It essentially creates a perfect mirror of your avatar — it even animates the same way you are.</p></blockquote>
<p>Only temporarily. The shape isn&#8217;t retained by the bot, and can&#8217;t be saved. Given that you can&#8217;t really do anything while logged in with the copybot software, shapes are safe.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolus Naumova</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/11/in-the-wake-of-copybot.html/comment-page-1#comment-879</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolus Naumova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you say that CopyBot can&#039;t copy clothing, I believe you&#039;re mistaken. While I don&#039;t think it actually copies that piece of clothing, it does copy the texture and apply it to the avatar acting as a bot. And it does copy shapes. It essentially creates a perfect mirror of your avatar -- it even animates the same way you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you say that CopyBot can&#8217;t copy clothing, I believe you&#8217;re mistaken. While I don&#8217;t think it actually copies that piece of clothing, it does copy the texture and apply it to the avatar acting as a bot. And it does copy shapes. It essentially creates a perfect mirror of your avatar &#8212; it even animates the same way you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Francesca Poppy</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/11/in-the-wake-of-copybot.html/comment-page-1#comment-878</link>
		<dc:creator>Francesca Poppy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It made me so happy to read such a balanced, rational and ultimately hopeful commentary on the whole mess. Thank you for putting so much thought...and heart...into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It made me so happy to read such a balanced, rational and ultimately hopeful commentary on the whole mess. Thank you for putting so much thought&#8230;and heart&#8230;into it.</p>
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