Comments on: Customizable Reeboks in RL and SL http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/10/customizable-reeboks-in-rl-and-sl.html Clothes, and shoes, and hair, oh my! Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:53:02 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Exploring New Learning Spaces » Blog Archive » links for 2006-10-13 http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/10/customizable-reeboks-in-rl-and-sl.html/comment-page-1#comment-472 Exploring New Learning Spaces » Blog Archive » links for 2006-10-13 Fri, 13 Oct 2006 12:23:25 +0000 http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/10/customizable-reeboks-in-rl-and-sl.html#comment-472 [...] Second Style Fashionista » Customizable Reeboks in RL and SL (tags: SecondLife business) Bookmark to:          [...]

]]> By: Talon Lardner http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/10/customizable-reeboks-in-rl-and-sl.html/comment-page-1#comment-455 Talon Lardner Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:25:47 +0000 http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/10/customizable-reeboks-in-rl-and-sl.html#comment-455 I agree with Choice, RL clothes/shoes manufacturers aren't in SL for competition, they are simply for advertising. Also, with SL, it isn't like RL where one only buys one or the other, it's priced at a point where one could easially buy both. I agree with Choice, RL clothes/shoes manufacturers aren’t in SL for competition, they are simply for advertising. Also, with SL, it isn’t like RL where one only buys one or the other, it’s priced at a point where one could easially buy both.

]]> By: Choice Sliter http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/10/customizable-reeboks-in-rl-and-sl.html/comment-page-1#comment-449 Choice Sliter Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:49:10 +0000 http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/10/customizable-reeboks-in-rl-and-sl.html#comment-449 I don't agree Wanda. While sneakers is a market that I think RL companies have potential for making good ground, I don't believe that RL companies will be the death of SL fashion. For one thin RL companies are used to producing for two seasons. That would mean two release periods a year. They are also used to being confined to a set of predetermined colors that trend watchers have established and fabric makers have designed for. It will be a major adjustment for a RL company to adapt to making new releases even once a month (which is a long time by SL standards). Equally difficult for a RL brand is dealing with the concept that they will have objects under their brand on SL that do not exist in RL. When you are as protective over your brand as Nike and Reebok, that is not a small issue to reconcile. And, as you can see from both the Adidas and Reebok examples, designing for the avatar is different from designing for the human. In RL you don't have to paint your own light and shadows. In RL, 15 color options might be a lot. In SL, it might be too limiting. I don’t agree Wanda. While sneakers is a market that I think RL companies have potential for making good ground, I don’t believe that RL companies will be the death of SL fashion. For one thin RL companies are used to producing for two seasons. That would mean two release periods a year. They are also used to being confined to a set of predetermined colors that trend watchers have established and fabric makers have designed for. It will be a major adjustment for a RL company to adapt to making new releases even once a month (which is a long time by SL standards). Equally difficult for a RL brand is dealing with the concept that they will have objects under their brand on SL that do not exist in RL. When you are as protective over your brand as Nike and Reebok, that is not a small issue to reconcile. And, as you can see from both the Adidas and Reebok examples, designing for the avatar is different from designing for the human. In RL you don’t have to paint your own light and shadows. In RL, 15 color options might be a lot. In SL, it might be too limiting.

]]> By: Wanda http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/10/customizable-reeboks-in-rl-and-sl.html/comment-page-1#comment-448 Wanda Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:10:21 +0000 http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/10/customizable-reeboks-in-rl-and-sl.html#comment-448 Commercial brand names are one more nail in the coffin of SL. An average user/resident/designer cannot compete with corporations like substandard UK brand Reebok and German Adidas. If you took an adidas shoe from RL and made an SL copy, you would be stopped from selling it pretty quickly by LL as we have seen with some WB avatars being removed recently. Now, what happens if Adidas took an sl shoe design from an unknown designer and made a RL version of it? Can you afford to drag them into court? Will Linden Lab help you in any way, shape or form? Commercial brand names are one more nail in the coffin of SL.
An average user/resident/designer cannot compete with corporations like substandard UK brand Reebok and German Adidas.

If you took an adidas shoe from RL and made an SL copy, you would be stopped from selling it pretty quickly by LL as we have seen with some WB avatars being removed recently.
Now, what happens if Adidas took an sl shoe design from an unknown designer and made a RL version of it?
Can you afford to drag them into court? Will Linden Lab help you in any way, shape or form?

]]> By: Kalia http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/10/customizable-reeboks-in-rl-and-sl.html/comment-page-1#comment-444 Kalia Mon, 09 Oct 2006 22:48:53 +0000 http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/10/customizable-reeboks-in-rl-and-sl.html#comment-444 I think I'm going to have to check these out for myself, $50L is really low for a pair of shoes, and I know designers who would ask $150-200L for that quality of work. Adding to my must-see list! I think I’m going to have to check these out for myself, $50L is really low for a pair of shoes, and I know designers who would ask $150-200L for that quality of work.
Adding to my must-see list!

]]> By: Choice Sliter http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/10/customizable-reeboks-in-rl-and-sl.html/comment-page-1#comment-442 Choice Sliter Mon, 09 Oct 2006 21:06:50 +0000 http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/10/customizable-reeboks-in-rl-and-sl.html#comment-442 Yes. I hope it's clear from my review that I consider them acceptable, definitely not impressive. They are clearly not as refined as they could (or perhaps <em>should</em>) be. At L$50 it's forgivable (to me, at least). But yes, I'd much rather pay more to a native SL designer who gets the texturing and fit right. So please come through for us, elka :-) Yes. I hope it’s clear from my review that I consider them acceptable, definitely not impressive. They are clearly not as refined as they could (or perhaps should) be. At L$50 it’s forgivable (to me, at least). But yes, I’d much rather pay more to a native SL designer who gets the texturing and fit right. So please come through for us, elka :-)

]]> By: elka http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/10/customizable-reeboks-in-rl-and-sl.html/comment-page-1#comment-440 elka Mon, 09 Oct 2006 20:07:43 +0000 http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/10/customizable-reeboks-in-rl-and-sl.html#comment-440 That's interesting because ever since Adidas came people have been wishing for retro versions... However, from what I see in you pic, they look awfully noob-ish done... :/ So yay if they are 50$L because solid color + weird unprofessional-looking-shape = not impressed... However they own the marker because noone else did retro shoes so far (I'm trying tho! :P) and so it = we will want them anyways! XD That’s interesting because ever since Adidas came people have been wishing for retro versions… However, from what I see in you pic, they look awfully noob-ish done… :/ So yay if they are 50$L because solid color + weird unprofessional-looking-shape = not impressed… However they own the marker because noone else did retro shoes so far (I’m trying tho! :P ) and so it = we will want them anyways! XD

]]> By: Anya Ristow http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/10/customizable-reeboks-in-rl-and-sl.html/comment-page-1#comment-437 Anya Ristow Mon, 09 Oct 2006 13:09:36 +0000 http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/10/customizable-reeboks-in-rl-and-sl.html#comment-437 I live an advertising-free lifestyle, so I don't want logo'd shoes even for L$50. I live an advertising-free lifestyle, so I don’t want logo’d shoes even for L$50.

]]> By: Choice Sliter http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/10/customizable-reeboks-in-rl-and-sl.html/comment-page-1#comment-434 Choice Sliter Mon, 09 Oct 2006 04:17:42 +0000 http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/10/customizable-reeboks-in-rl-and-sl.html#comment-434 I understand what you're saying about the texture, but I felt like the RL version wasn't particularly textural. That said, it doesn't mean they couldn't have added some more shading and highlighting. As for the pricing, I also agree. The small price tag can have a depressive impact on the shoe market for native SL designers. However, if they had priced their shoes at L$200-300, I would never have been tempted to spend money on them. At L$50 it's a novel, impulse buy. At L$300 it's a competitor. Then I'm not as forgiving when it comes to texturing and fit problems. But at any price point, I think it is particularly difficult for SL shoe designers to create a sneaker that meets our RL expectations and isn't a copyright violation. I understand what you’re saying about the texture, but I felt like the RL version wasn’t particularly textural. That said, it doesn’t mean they couldn’t have added some more shading and highlighting. As for the pricing, I also agree. The small price tag can have a depressive impact on the shoe market for native SL designers. However, if they had priced their shoes at L$200-300, I would never have been tempted to spend money on them. At L$50 it’s a novel, impulse buy. At L$300 it’s a competitor. Then I’m not as forgiving when it comes to texturing and fit problems. But at any price point, I think it is particularly difficult for SL shoe designers to create a sneaker that meets our RL expectations and isn’t a copyright violation.

]]> By: Nicholas Shaftoe http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/10/customizable-reeboks-in-rl-and-sl.html/comment-page-1#comment-433 Nicholas Shaftoe Mon, 09 Oct 2006 03:53:36 +0000 http://blog.secondstyle.com/2006/10/customizable-reeboks-in-rl-and-sl.html#comment-433 I felt like the shoes could have used a little more texture to them. Also with both Adidas and Reebok coming in and pricing their shoes at L$50, it undercuts the resident shoemakers who typicaly charge L$200-300 for a pair of shoes. Obvoiusly for Adidas and Reebok it's about viral marketing and not money, which is the problem for those trying to make some L$ creating shoes. I felt like the shoes could have used a little more texture to them. Also with both Adidas and Reebok coming in and pricing their shoes at L$50, it undercuts the resident shoemakers who typicaly charge L$200-300 for a pair of shoes. Obvoiusly for Adidas and Reebok it’s about viral marketing and not money, which is the problem for those trying to make some L$ creating shoes.

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